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This is part 3 of a series where I talk about how specific tactics can be used to increase suggestibility, trust, and dependency. This series will be talking about how these techniques can be used in a religious context. Disclaimer: Mind control does not mean that someone does something against there will. It is a set of tactics used to influence someone’s actions, thoughts, and behaviors. It is not ONLY used in a religious setting. It is simply the focus of this series. Music used with …
January 9, 2010 at 7:48 am
i will help you spread these learning
January 9, 2010 at 8:02 am
same things in sects… its me versus them mentality. Cults use this all the time among making you wear the same clothes as them or having dress codes making you eat certain food. Fasting is awesome way too because it makes your brain malfunction since it doesnt get enough nutrients its used in cults a lot (or they give you food that lacks nutrients) and also in religion
January 9, 2010 at 8:57 am
A great example of loaded language is how scientology uses the term “reasonable” in scientology a person who is being reasonable is over thinking something and relying on their own reason rather than trusting the church. Christians have the same concept when we day “lean not on your own understanding” most people would consider it good to be reasonable and think critically but those things are turned into negative attributes. It’s a scary concept.
January 9, 2010 at 9:54 am
You should read { Non Violent Communication } Great Book
Idont think you realize that You sound just like a preacher { My way is right Your way is wrong} Listen to me I will show you the right path. Watch my video I will deliver you from the Evil religion. I think the book Non Violent Communcation will be something you will enjoy. I have enjoyed Videos. Just a little to Judgemental for Me { Iam right Your wrong } Terminolgy
January 9, 2010 at 9:59 am
these same things are used in A.A
Your either sober or you’ve gone back out there.
very good vid!
January 9, 2010 at 10:33 am
Good and evil, faithful and non-faithful, “us vs them” these dualistic, dichotomous pretense and frequently used religious contexts.
January 9, 2010 at 11:14 am
Really like this series. this video’s particularly good
Keep it up. 5*
January 9, 2010 at 11:28 am
It also explains why it’s so hard to talk to them, we hear the words they’re using but we don’t load them when we try to understand what they’re telling us. When we talk to them they load our words even though we never wanted to do that ourselves.
January 9, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Thanks for the compliment!
Yah, i notice in this one I did have some sound problems… I’m getting better with messing with sound though, so hopefully this will improve the more videos I make. =D
January 9, 2010 at 12:28 pm
i love your videos!! they are pretty interesting but the sound its too low that i almost can hear your beatiful voice!!! keep it up girl you rock!!
January 9, 2010 at 1:24 pm
I’m glad you enjoyed it. =D I’m getting into some of the more complicated topics.
Just so you know, I will have more of these videos coming out, but I’m finishing my deconversion story first. I still like to put these out periodically and I’m reading a really good book that will be helpful for these videos. =D
January 9, 2010 at 2:06 pm
I am concerned that there are what I would call abusive things in religion. I have a video about spiritual abuse (called, Do I hate religion) and I am VERY against that. I will be doing more videos about that in more detail as well in the future.
I do think the concept of hell is a very terrifying and emotionally damaging thing! Especially when children are threatened with it.
January 9, 2010 at 2:34 pm
In general, though, telling a young child that they and their friends and family will burn in hell if they are bad is equivalent to (but ethically far worse than) threatening a mentally retarded suspect with the death penalty to get him to cop to a plea when they don’t have evidence to convict.
Bathroom denial and various forms of peer pressure tactics are also common interrogation techniques which have been shown to elicit false confessions.
January 9, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Maybe not in such a concentrated effort although I’ve confirmed with other individuals who attended these types of camps in different states and in different decades. The only thing in common between them is they considered themselves baptist.
January 9, 2010 at 2:49 pm
Wow, some of the things you are describing are extremely intense and abusive… I would say that MOST religions don’t use things this intense. BUT with this series I do plan on moving from the very common to the more cultish/less common.
Peer pressure will be including coming up in the next few videos in this series, but it will be included in another category.
I am currently working on other things, but I always want to put out a new one from this series every so often. =D
January 9, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Fortunately I was raised in a secular home and saw through the deception and it wasn’t reinforced later. I never actually knew my parents’ position on religion growing up (they never spoke of religion although we did observe Christmas) but they did teach me critical thinking. I only found out recently that my parents are actually agnostic atheists and anti-religion.
January 9, 2010 at 3:24 pm
In my case I was sent to a baptist summer camp by my grandparents and every morning we were drummed out of bed, not allowed to use the restroom or have breakfast and we’d have to kneel on hard wood floors in a chapel until one of us came forward and related a vision/dream of being saved. Each day it would take longer and longer as fewer and fewer of us hadn’t done it and the pressure to relieve the group suffering was incredible.
January 9, 2010 at 4:07 pm
Did you have any experience with more direct coercive techniques? Many southern baptist churches will have camps for young children (~8 years old) where they use tactics very similar to interrogation techniques used on criminals to coerce a child into “confessing” he’s been saved and even confabulate a a story about a vision. Tactics include peer pressure, physical discomfort, denial of food and the use of the bathroom among other things.
January 9, 2010 at 5:03 pm
I will have to take a look.
January 9, 2010 at 5:57 pm
I would agree with you. I am trying to make my videos more appealing and encourage viewers. Religion is definately not the only thing that does things like this. I am not attributing the good feelings to a deity of any kind though =P
I have a video in this series just talking about the power of music in case you haven’t checked that out.
January 9, 2010 at 6:10 pm
I agree that adding positive terms to concepts you are promoting makes the concept more appealing. I wonder if adding appealing music to the background of your videos has the same impact as “loading the language”.
This is just a brainstorm, but it seems to have the same traits. It gives us something in common, gives me positive feelings towards your message, and makes me more likely to agree with you.
What do you think of that?
January 9, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Good video.
I like coming across a calm, rational individual who holds a different view than I do. Unfortunately I feel you are in the minority as to how you approach this type of topic.
I agree with that you said. There is “loaded language”. I don’t think this disproves Christianity by any means, but it does seem to be a negative trait.
As a Christian, I dislike the prevalence of Christians going with the flow and not thinking for themselves.
This mentality contradicts 1 Thess 5:21.
January 9, 2010 at 7:41 pm
I feel like this is my own religion anonymous. We share common understanding in different peices of our prior brainwashing. Glad you found me, good luck.
January 9, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Fantastic explanation. I really learned many things from it !
it really really gets into my nerves when people anywhere in the street or at home tell you to be safe, but i always get silent and now i’m thinking that i should just let out my opinions also ! i’m already safe, i’m saved from religious ignorance
January 9, 2010 at 8:14 pm
You are expressing very complex things in a difficult medium (visual with a max time boundary of 10 minutes), and doing so quite well.
Thank you.